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good articleInfobox musical artist| name = Romeo Void| image = Romeo Void.jpg| caption = Romeo Void (left to right): Frank Zincavage, Aaron Smith, Debora Iyall, Peter Woods, Benjamin Bossi| background = group_or_band| origin = San Francisco , California|CA | genre = New Wave music|New Wave , post-punk | years_active = 1979–1985| label = 415 Records|415 , Columbia Records|Columbia | website = http://www.romeovoid.net www.romeovoid.net| past_members = Benjamin Bossi
Larry Carter
Jay Derrah
John "Stench" Haines
Debora Iyall
Aaron Smith (musician)|Aaron Smith
Peter Woods
Frank Zincavage
Romeo Void was an American Rock music|rock band from San Francisco, California , formed in 1979. The band primarily consisted of saxophonist Benjamin Bossi, vocalist Debora Iyall , guitarist Peter Woods, and bassist Frank Zincavage. The band went through four drummers, starting with Jay Derrah and ending with Aaron Smith (musician)|Aaron Smith . The band released three albums, '' It's a Condition , Benefactor (album)|Benefactor , and Instincts (album)|Instincts , along with one EP and singles. They are best known for the songs " Never Say Never (Romeo Void song)|Never Say Never " and " A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing) ", which were minor hits, the latter becoming a Top 40 pop single.

The band was started at the San Francisco Art Institute by Iyall and Zincavage. They released a single on the recently formed 415 Records before recording their debut album, which has been deemed a "masterpiece of American post-punk ". The success of their 2nd release, a 4 song ep, "Nvr Say Nvr" resulted in a distribution deal with Columbia Records . The band continued to release music and tour until they broke up in 1985. The members have reunited briefly over the years. Iyall has continued to pursue music as a side project. The band's music was generally associated with the New Wave music|New Wave and post-punk movements of the early 1980s, but also experimented with danceable song structures and a saxophonist. Iyall garnered acclaim as a skilled lyricist who explored themes like sexuality and alienation from a female perspective with "dark intelligence" and "searing imagery".

Biography


1979: Formation


Romeo Void formed at the San Francisco Art Institute in February 1979. Vocalist Debora Iyall occasionally visited the San Francisco Bay Area|Bay Area to see Patti Smith perform.cite web | url = http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/punk-prophets/Content? oid=1069071& showFullText=true | title = Punk Prophets | last = Bielawski | first = Toby | publisher = East Bay Express | date = 2003-01-01 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 She decided to pursue an art education after reading a fortune cookie. "It was in the late '70's at the Indochina Friendship Booth at the annual Fourth of July streetfair in Eureka, California ," she said. "I got a fortune cookie that said 'Art is your fate, don't debate.' That next January, I was enrolled in an art school in San Francisco."cite book | last = Michaels | first = Randolph | title = Flashbacks to Happiness: Eighties Music Revisited| publisher = iUniverse | year = 2005 | isbn = 0595370071 | page = 156 She began frequenting the Mabuhay Gardens , a popular nightclub, to see local alternative rock groups like The Nuns , The Mutants (band)|the Mutants , Crime (band)|Crime , and the Avengers (band)|Avengers . She also formed the Mummers and Poppers, a punk Parody music|parody band that covered '60s tunes with guitarist Peter Woods, an English Major at SF State and drummer Jay Derrah, .cite web | url = Allmusic|class=artist|id=p5301|tab=biography|pure_url=yes | last = Mason | first = Stewart | title = Romeo Void biography | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 | ref = harvcite book | last = Gimarc | first = George | title = Post Punk Diary: 1980-1982 | publisher = Macmillan Publishers | year = 1997 | isbn = 031216968X | page = 135 Iyall was originally hesitant to perform because she was overweight: "After seeing Patti Smith, I still had it in my mind that you had to be skinny to be up there on stage, but after going to the Mabuhay ... you just do whatever you want, be whoever you want, just make it happen."

Bassist Frank Zincavage met Iyall at the SF Art Institute; the two hit it off and discussed putting a band together. They formed one with Woods and Derrah a few weeks later, drawing inspiration from the "burgeoning local punk and post-punk scenes". Iyall recruited Woods because she enjoyed playing with him in the Mommers and Poppers. "It seemed only natural that we invite Peter Woods to join us ... He played clean and was a natural on rhythm guitar." Romeo Void officially formed on Valentine's Day in 1979. According to Iyall, the name "Romeo Void" referred to "a lack of romance" and came to mind after they saw a local magazine with the headline "Why single women can't get laid in San Francisco." The band practiced in Iyall's flat in Mission District, San Francisco|Mission District . It was decided that the group would embrace punk ideals despite the possibility that they become associated with the New Wave music|New Wave movement. "Even though I was going to the Mabuhay Gardens so much, I also had criticisms: Everyone was leaning against the wall wearing black," Iyall said. "I guess we were considered new wave, but for me Romeo Void was a reaction against the regimentation of everyone having to be bleached blond and everything being about despair and no future, when I thought the DIY ethic|do-it-yourself thing should encompass all the different kinds of emotions, and all the different colors. ... I was proud of being Native Americans in the United States|American Indian , so I purposely never bleached my hair blond."

1980-1982: ''It's a Condition , Benefactors , and mainstream success


The band became busy playing shows at clubs and warehouses around San Francisco, and quickly became popular. Saxophonist Benjamin Bossi was added to the lineup as an "accident" when Iyall met him while he worked in a deli. The group released their first single, "White Sweater", which consisted of the title track and a cover of Danish musician Jørgen Ingmann 's popular instrumental composition " Apache (instrumental)|Apache ", in February 1981 on a recently founded local label called 415 Records . They worked on the recording of their debut album, '' It's a Condition '', with producer David Kahne . Before recording began, Derrah left the band and was replaced by John "Stench" Haines, who had previously played with Pearl Harbor and the Explosions . Romeo Void's debut was critically acclaimed upon its release through 415 in July 1981, and introduced Romeo Void's "unique blend of jazz, funk, rock and confrontational poetry".cite web | url = http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php? a=romeo_void | last = Payes | first = Robert | title = Romeo Void biography | publisher = Trouser Press | year = 2011 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 Allmusic writer Stewart Mason later heralded it as one of the "masterpieces of American post-punk ". Indie labels were enthusiastic with promotions and the band embarked on several nationwide tours.cite web | url = http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx/debora-iyall-fills-a-void/Content? oid=1689704 | title = Debora Iyall Fills a Void | last = Evans | first = Kirsty | publisher = East Bay Express | date = 2010-04-14 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 Eventually Haines left the band, leaving Larry Carter to fill the drummer position.cite book | last = Strong | first = Martin Charles | title = The Great Indie Discography | publisher = Grove/Atlantic, Inc.|Canongate U.S. | year = 2003 | isbn = 1841953350 | page = 487

The sudden surge in popularity was disorienting to Iyall. "It was frightening: we played a college in Santa Barbara, California|Santa Barbara , and there were all these blond people crowding the stage, and I thought 'These are the people who hated me in high school!' When you grow up being 'outside' -- because I wasn't white, and I was fat, and always a bit of a free thinker -- it was strange. It was like, 'uh-oh, I must be doing something wrong -- they like me!'" Highly successful mainstream artists like Ann Wilson and Ric Ocasek were eager to the meet the band. Ocasek extended an invitation to collaborate at his Synchro Sound studio in Boston, Massachusetts|Boston . The recording sessions in Boston resulted in the Never Say Never (EP)|Never Say Never EP in January 1982. The title track became their best-known song and has remained synonymous with the band ever since. Additionally, the success of the single directly led to 415 Records signing a deal with Columbia Records , which elevated the indie label's roster to major-label status. Romeo Void released their second album, entitled Benefactor (album)|Benefactor , in November 1982.cite web | url = Allmusic|class=album|id=R16861|pure_url=yes | last = Ruhlmann | first = William | title = Benefactor review | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011b | accessdate = 2011-02-21 The album appeared at No. 119 on the Billboard 200 .cite web | url = Allmusic|class=artist|id=p5301|tab=charts-awards|pure_url=yes | author = Allmusic staff | title = Romeo Void charts and awards | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 Benefactor was noticeably more commercial sounding than previous endeavors; the music was made more danceable and swearing was removed on the song "Never Say Never". The different approach in the sound resulted in comparisons to Blondie (band)|Blondie , which Allmusic writer William Ruhlmann suggested was a deliberate attempt by Columbia. Iyall stated that there was more pressure to write sexually laced lyrics for Benefactor : "I do like to be provocative, and I definitely have access to my sexuality, and as a topic I find it ripe, but I wasn't ever going to be a sex-pot diva, so that was kind of odd." She also said there was pressure to produce more singles.

1983-present: Instincts , break-up, and post-band endeavors


A third and final album was again helmed by David Kahne, which Allmusic writer Stewart Mason speculated was a "reaction against the more commercial sound of Benefactor .cite web | url = Allmusic|class=album|id=R16862|pure_url=yes | last = Ruhlmann | first = William | title = Instincts review | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011c | accessdate = 2011-02-21 By this time, Carter had been replaced by Aaron Smith. Instincts (album)|Instincts was released in October 1984, debuted at No. 68 on the Billboard 200, and proved to be the band's best-selling album. It also launched their most successful single, " A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing) ," which broke the Billboard Hot 100|Billboard Top 40 and peaked at No. 35. Critical reactions were positive.cite journal | last = Gillis | first = Kathy | title = Talent in Action: Romeo Void | journal = Billboard (magazine)|Billboard | issue = 90th Anniversary Special Edition | month = December | year = 1984 Despite being the band's most successful effort to date, Columbia pulled the band's promotional support while on a nationwide tour. "The very next town we got to after they made that decision, there wasn't an A& R person there," said Iyall. "There was no local person there, there were no interviews and in-stores arranged as they had been. All that just ground to a halt." The band returned to San Francisco and soon broke up. Constant touring has been cited by Iyall as the primary reason for the break-up. "You get tired of each other, and you get intolerant of being uncomfortable and away from your family and your friends." According to a VH1 reunion episode, the issue of Iyall's weight was the reason for the label dropping them. In 2003, Iyall agreed with this claim: " Howie Klein|Howie sold us from 415 to Columbia Records, and they were like 'Who's this fat chick? ' They decided that was as far as it was going to get, and pulled their support." Crawdaddy! writer Denise Sullivan stated that the label spoke to Iyall about losing weight, but she subsequently refused.cite web | url = http://www.crawdaddy.com/index.php/2010/11/23/what-makes-a-legend-debora-iyall/ | title = What Makes a Legend: Debora Iyall | last = Sullivan | first = Denise | publisher = Crawdaddy! | date = 2010-12-23 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 In 2010, Iyall declined to discuss the issue, but added that she may not be taking full responsibility in the matter.

Iyall released a solo album entitled Strange Language with former band members Bossi and Smith in 1986.cite web | url = Allmusic|class=album|id=r173535|pure_url=yes | last = Mason | first = Stewart | title = Strange Language review | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 Afterward she pursued a career as an art teacher. The band reunited briefly for a live performance in 1993. In 2004 Romeo Void was featured on an episode of VH1's Bands Reunited . Bossi had sustained too much Hearing impairment|hearing damage over the years and was unable to perform.cite news| last = Bernstein | first = Jonathan | title = Jonathan Bernstein's Aerial View of America | newspaper = The Guardian | month = February | year = 2004 | page = 98 Iyall has continued to dabble in music related projects and events. "I still like to sing and I still like to perform," she said. In 2003 she was involved in a musical project called Knife in Water. She began collaborating with Peter Dunne, who was known as Peter Bilt when he played guitar for Pearl Harbor and the Explosions. Iyall and Dunne performed at a support benefit for Crawdaddy! founder Paul Williams (Crawdaddy& #33; creator)|Paul Williams in June 2009,cite web | url = http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rockers-unite-for-benefit-supporting-crawdaddy-founder-paul-williams-20090623 | title = Rockers Unite for Benefit Supporting Crawdaddy& #33; Founder Paul Williams | author = Rolling Stone staff | publisher = Rolling Stone | date = 2009-06-23 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 and performed at a concert honoring 415 Records later that September.cite web | url = http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-09-04/entertainment/17204663_1_romeo-void-debora-iyall-wire-train | title = S.F. concert in honor of 415 Records | last = Selvin | first = Joel | publisher = San Francisco Chronicle | date = 2009-10-04 | accessdate = 2011-02-22 They released an album entitled Stay Strong in 2010.

Music


Style


listen | filename = Never Say Never.ogg | title = "Never Say Never" | description = The band's most popular song, "Never Say Never" exhibits a "sexy yet sneering and detached essence" in what has been hailed one of the greatest lines in rock history: "I might like you better if we slept together". | format = Ogg | filename2 = A Girl In Trouble (Is A Temporary Thing).ogg | title2 = "A Girl In Trouble (Is A Temporary Thing)" | description2 = "A Girl In Trouble (Is A Temporary Thing)" was the group's highest-charting single. Allmusic called it "a smart, sexy, and spellbinding slice from one of the best and most creative and overlooked artists of the mid-'80s." | format2 = Ogg Romeo Void has generally been classified as a New Wave music|new wave cite news | author = Hall, Dave | author2 = Siegel, Kristi | title = Sound Bites: Pop | newspaper = St. Petersburg Times | month = June | year = 1992 | page = 21 or post-punk band.cite news| last = Niester | first = Alan | title = Romeo Void's 'post-punk' Draws a Blank | newspaper = The Globe and Mail | month = November | year = 1982 | ref = harv Some critics have noted Dance music|dance elements in the music.cite web | url = Allmusic|class=album|id=R60055|pure_url=yes | last = Ruhlmann | first = William | title = Warm, In Your Coat review | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011e | accessdate = 2011-02-21 According to Stewart Mason, writing for Allmusic , "The band's muscular blend of Joy Division|Joy Division's atmospherics and the Gang of Four|Gang of Four's rattling momentum, with Benjamin Bossi's splattering free jazz saxophone coloring everything, made Romeo Void one of the strongest of the American post-punk bands. The St. Petersburg Times wrote that they "had no trouble creating a signature sound for themselves with a scratchy guitar, soulful sax, and tight, precise drums." The New York Times stated that they sounded like "an art-school band, with its textural complexity and touches of jazz and funk"cite news| last = Palmer | first = Robert | title = The Pop Life | newspaper = The New York Times | month = August | year = 1982 | page = 19 Saxophone player Benjamin Bossi has been observed as the ingredient that "set the band apart" and showed a "talent for both improvisation and arrangement."cite news| last = Mariotte | first = Michael | title = Romeo Void | newspaper = The Washington Post | month = November | year = 1984 | page = B4 Alan Niester, writing for The Globe and Mail , said that he weaved "in and out ... like a Snake charming|snake charmer " and reminded him of Andy Mackay , a saxophonist that played with Roxy Music .

Liam Lacey, also writing for The Globe and Mail , described Iyall's voice as "sultry and sexy",cite news| last = Lacey | first = Liam | title = Riff Rap: Lead singer of Romeo Void speaks out on rock and roll | newspaper = The Globe and Mail | month = November | year = 1984 while Mason called it "powerful". Her style has sometimes been compared to Chrissie Hynde , vocalist for the Pretenders (band)|Pretenders . Richard Harrington of The Washington Post acknowledged the similarity, but also noted the influence of other singers in " Never Say Never (Romeo Void song)|Never Say Never " where Iyall mixed the "aggressive bitchiness of Hynde, the coy confrontational tactics of Patty Donahue of the Waitresses and the slack sensuality of Debbie Harry of the earliest Blondie (band)|Blondie ."cite news | last = Harrington | first = Richard | title = Lovelorn Translator, Loveless Romeo Void | publisher = The Washington Post | month = September | year = 1982 Iyall used to find the comparison annoying, but eventually warmed to it: "When people said I sounded like her, I'd say, 'Oh yeah, thanks a lot.' But this year, I've fallen in love with Learning To Crawl so now I don't care if people want to make comparisons." After a live show in 1982, Niester contended that she was the weakest part of the group and had the "vocal range of an automobile horn". Billboard (magazine)|Billboard writer Kathy Gillis wrote after a concert two years later that Iyall exhibited a "dramatic range that, while not extreme in either direction, was touching."

Patti Smith had a great influence on Iyall. "She was someone who was both a rock singer and a poet," she said. "She combined things I was interested in. Plus, she wasn't a trumped-up sex symbol . She was herself on stage. That appealed to me. It looked like something I could do. You didn't have to look like all the other singers." Iyall was highly critical of the music of the day and found inspiration in other mediums. "I hate rock and roll right now. It's turned into some new kind of stupid religion... I'd rather listen to Billie Holiday , maybe Tom Waits . Actually, I'll admit I like The Bangles - they have a great sound. But I'd just as soon read novels or paint pictures as listen to music. I love language - plain speech, used in an enigmatic, subliminal way; I'm not much tied to the literal."

Lyrics


Iyall was observed by Mother Jones (magazine)|Mother Jones to be among a new group of female fronted rock bands that displayed a "tough, wry, street-wise, and cynical" attitude and sought to redefine the role of women in rock music.cite journal | last = Talbot | first = David | title = New Wave Rockettes& #33; | journal = Mother Jones (magazine)|Mother Jones | publisher = Foundation for National Progress | volume = 6 | issue = 6 | month = July | year = 1981 | page = 7 She developed a sizable following for her writing that covered topics like "frustrated desire and sexually motivated rage" from a female perspective. Critics praised her lyrics for their "searing imagery", "seething poetics", and "dark intelligence" "My approach was always that I had something to say, I had a point of view," Iyall said, commenting on her outspokeness. "I remember seeing Penelope Houston|Penelope from the Avengers (band)|Avengers at the Mabuhay Gardens and thinking, I can do that. I have something to say."

Romeo Void's most well-known song is "Never Say Never", which contains the famous line "I might like you better if we slept together." Allmusic writer Heather Phares has argued that Iyall's "teasing, existential musings ... predated and predicted the aloof yet frank sexuality of early- and mid-'90s artists such as Elastica and Liz Phair ". Phares concluded that the song was "a subversive, influential classic" and "one of new wave's most distinctive and innovative moments. "cite web | url = Allmusic|class=song|id=t2073117|pure_url=yes | last = Phares | first = Heather | title = Never Say Never review | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 The song has been covered by many artists, among them are Queens of the Stone Age and Amanda Blake.cite web | url = http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/queens-of-the-stone-age-talk-tour-20000929 | title = Queens of the Stone Age Talk Tour | last = Roth | first = Kristin | publisher = Rolling Stone | date = 2000-09-29 | accessdate = 2011-02-21cite web | url = http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/oct/03/amanda-blank-electro-pop-music? INTCMP=SRCH | title = Why we're Gaga for Amanda Blank | last = Elan | first = Priya | publisher = The Guardian | date = 2009-10-03 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 The song " A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing) ", their highest-charting single, was reportedly written as a response to Michael Jackson|Michael Jackson's hit song " Billie Jean ", but can also be seen as a tribute to women who have experienced traumatizing events.cite web | url = Allmusic|class=song|id=t440224|pure_url=yes | last = Horowitz | first = Hal | title = A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing) review | work = Allmusic | publisher = All Media Guide|All Media Guide, LLC | year = 2011 | accessdate = 2011-02-21 Iyall also wrote songs that touched on themes like social alienation ("Undercover Kept") and generation gap s ("Chinatown").

Discography


col-begincol-break Studio albums
  • 1981: '' It's a Condition

  • 1982: Benefactor (album)|Benefactor

  • 1984: Instincts (album)|Instincts


  • EPs
  • 1982: Never Say Never (EP)|Never Say Never EP


  • Compilations
  • 1992: Warm, in Your Coat

  • 1997: Never Say Never: Hits, Rarities & Gems

  • col-break Singles
  • 1981: "White Sweater" / "Apache"

  • 1982: "Never Say Never"

  • 1982: "Undercover Kept"

  • 1984: "A Girl In Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing)"

  • 1984: "Say No"

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    References


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    External links


  • http://www.romeovoid.net Romeo Void website

  • http://www.eclypso.com/2011/12/romeo-void.html Romeo Void Photos


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